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The University of Life
The University of Life & Bec Mylonas
What if intuition isn’t a soft skill, but the sharpest edge you have?
In this episode, I sit down with an “oracle to emperors” to explore how mystic counsel once shaped empires, why patriarchy forced magic underground, and how to reclaim a clear inner signal in a world addicted to noise.
This is a journey through history, body, place, and power, and how to realign them without losing your grip on the real.
We trace the arc from ancient courts guided by astrologers and oracles to a culture that prizes linear logic over living wisdom. You’ll hear the Irish and Mayan echoes of ritual gone underground, how modern media scripts our choices without us noticing, and why a society that elevates intellect over intuition is easier to control.
From there, we make it practical: how to treat the body like an antenna, using sleep, stillness, sea swims, and clean food to clear static so gnosis can land. Sensitivity becomes a superpower when paired with boundaries, not something to suppress or apologise for.
We also explore eros, discernment, and devotion: celibacy as focus, high standards as energetic engineering, and how heartbreak can alchemise into creativity, leadership, and service. Place enters the conversation too, Bali as a purification portal, Peru’s sacral charge, and how astrocartography can refine both business and purpose. We break down dragon lines, sacred sites, and why cultures encode the land long before science catches up.
If you’ve ever felt life is richer than the script you were handed, this episode gives you language, tools, and permission to choose the magical path with both feet, grounded, awake, and sovereign.
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Thank you for listening, Jamie x
Beck, welcome to the University of Life.
SPEAKER_03:Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_00:My pleasure. It's not every day I get to sit down with an oracle.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_00:No. So you um enchanted me with that word. So when I was like, you know, what are you doing now? You were like, oh Jamie, I'm an oracle.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's a bold claim, isn't it? Oracle has some husband to it.
SPEAKER_00:But it wasn't it just that. It was like, oh, I'm an oracle to emperors.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Literally you say the word emperor, my whole body goes, uh. Yeah. It's like very specific because like a a psychic or a channeler, I feel like they're here for more mass like anyone. Like, oh, d where's my dog? Is it in heaven? I don't know if people go to channelers to ask them that, or who am I gonna marry? Or like these very menial questions. Whereas an oracle is like throughout history, we have been like the the right-hand, I would say right-hand man to like emperors, kings. We're the ones who are like, hey, do I go to fucking war with this nation? Do I, what do I do about my famine situation, right? Like, so it's like we work with people who have larger scale impact and who are here to change the whole fucking world. We're not here for like small little, is my dog okay in heaven?
SPEAKER_00:Like, it's that sounds like Do you have something against dogs?
SPEAKER_03:I know where that example is coming from. But you see the difference. Like, I'm not here to fuck around with like, is he my soulmate? Isn't he my soulmate? Like, I'm here for like what are we building, how are we building it? And for me, that emperor archetype or the king, or like the empress, the woman version of that, a queen, they're the people who are like making moves, getting shit done.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and you want to align yourself, you want to work with them. Yeah. Sorry, I get this idea. I'm alternative history is starting to come up a little bit on this podcast. Um, but one thing I'm kind of quite drawn to is the idea that the king had numerous astrologers by their side. And yes, this idea of an oracle too. Um, generally one priest. Um, at some stage that kind of changed, and suddenly the more mystic started moving away. Um, but the idea, like I find it interesting. When I chat to some friends, and I'm like, oh, I was with my astrologer recently, or oh, I was with the psychic, it was fantastic. They cringe, they like they tighten up and they're like, You have lost it, my friend.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Do you get that a bit?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's like conditioned into us. And this was all very fucking tactical.
SPEAKER_00:So that's exactly my belief. I think that exactly as well. I think we've been purposefully detached from our magical intuitive ways. And it's it's quite a daring battle to get back into that world and to kind of re-establish a connection for ourselves in that realm. But that's that's actually like that's that's our edge.
SPEAKER_03:I see it as a detachment from the mother, the mother, like the mother of everything. And the mother is a goddess, the mother is also the intuition, the astrological things, spirit, right? We've been detached and severed from spirit for a really long fucking time. When the patriarchy came in, that's when all the oracles went underground. That's when all the mystical information, the mystery schools, everything went underground. And then instead we had this male-dominated patriarchal system that literally shamed that stuff and made it like put this stigma on, oh, you're crazy, it's craziness. It's like hoo-ha, it's like woo-woo. Let's, you know, and it was programmed into us. So then we're like, this stuff is bullshit.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, can I scratch that for a second? Okay, so when you're saying the mother, what I'm hearing is the father, the patriarchal system, is this like logical, linear system that we all live in today. Um, it's very financially orientated, very structured.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then when you say the mother, the more feminine, the more magical, the more soft, the more intuition, uh, intuitive, the more kind, the more caring world.
SPEAKER_03:Correct? The feminine.
SPEAKER_00:Feminine.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. You touched on this, like, let's say, this banishing of magic and the the pushing of magic underground. Yeah. Um, I'm from Ireland. We all celebrate St. Patrick. And I what I like on my kind of journey, what I've kind of come to believe is that St. Patrick actually converted our pagan king in the Hill of Tara, um, which is like our center point of magic in Ireland. And he he converted our pagan king, our magically orientated king, to Catholicism and banished magic at that time. That I it's quite sad when we think that we as Irish we celebrate St. Patrick. In actual fact, what we're doing is we're celebrating the very person that decapitated us from our more magical essence and roots. But interesting, you talked about the mother because what I heard about the kind of the mystical stories in Ireland is that yes, Ireland publicly banished its magic, but it was hidden in the women forevermore. Yeah. And that's why a lot of like Irish women are highly intuitive, highly magical. They kind of joke about it. But actually, beneath the surface, that there is a real magical uh essence amongst them all. It's like, don't ever try to lie to one, they'll catch you straight away.
SPEAKER_03:Women are like inherently closer to God, just because we're nurturers, like we're we're more heart-centered and compassionate. There's a thought that came into my mind, and I actually want to go back for a second and come back to the woman. When you were talking about what happened in Ireland, my first book is around ancient Maya and traveling in Mexico and what the conquistadoras did to not only like ancient Mayan the lineage and the information, but like every fucking ancient indigenous culture globally, including, you know, I wouldn't call Ireland ancient. Maybe it is, like Celtic, you know, that went down underground as well. And then Catholicism came. And it's interesting because in Mexico, there's this weird blend of like Catholicism with some like indigenous rituals and stuff. So it's like it's there, like you said, buried or it's underneath, but they're not allowed to like talk about it. Like in many actual sacred sites, in um it's fucking really horrible because I was going, traveling to sacred sites and working with them, and you're not allowed to practice certain Mayan rituals at a lot of the main pyramid sites in Mexico. Yeah. Because there's such a trauma around that. So I just wanted to speak into that because it's like that we've done this, has happened globally.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I find that quite interesting where people like to say, um, like to hold their pain quite unique, isn't it? Like, this has happened to us. And it's like, well, actually, if you go around the world, this has happened universally, where the magical ways of the world have essentially been banished and replaced with this like numbed out, very basic way of living that that almost has this superiority to it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that as I said, for me, when I'm like, oh yeah, I'm engaging with my more mystical friends, I'm meeting with an oracle, I'm chatting to an astrologist. There's a kind of a I I'm met with this sense of what am I up to? And this this superiority in simplicity.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's like, oh no, no, our very simple elementary basic ways that we've evolved to actually are better than the more magical roots and that the wonder that comes in that world.
SPEAKER_03:Because we're valuing our intellect over intuition. Yeah. And that's intentional because if we connect to intuition, then we don't need these fucking systems. We don't need the government telling us what to do. We don't need can like we won't be controlled. Like it's a system of control. If we are connected to our intuition, we're connected to the earth. We don't fuck with the earth, we don't hurt the earth. Yeah. Industry doesn't exist. Greed and wealth doesn't exist because we're like, well, I'm taking my riches, they're internal and they go beyond this lifetime. And money's like, yeah, it's great to help get stuff done, but it's not the be-all end all, and we just operate differently.
SPEAKER_00:I so I do think, right? I'm I'm curious to run this past you. I have this idea that you can learn, obviously through day-to-day experience, or you can learn through reading a book.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:There's another type of learning that's coming to me, whereas the better I look after myself, the cleaner my body is, the better I exercise, the better I sleep, the better I like look after myself and take time to sit with myself. It's fascinating. I I see myself as an antenna. And so the better I look after myself, the cleaner that antenna.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:And the the weirder it is that knowledge just seems to sprout within me. Clarity just seems to come. This idea of like, oh, I'm just going for a walk in nature, a swim in the sea, and I come back with all the solutions to whatever problems I've been faced with. That doesn't seem to get any airtime. That actual fact, when we look after ourselves, knowledge seems to sprout up from within us.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I love that.
SPEAKER_03:It's a if you see yourself, like you said, an antenna, and that's a beautiful way of doing it. It's like we're a channel, right? A channel for information. If our meridians, like our energy system, you can call them like the dragon lines within our body, because I work with the dragon lines of the earth, that we can talk about the dragon lines within our body or the meridian system or the vital life force where it flows the chakras. If they're blocked, then it's like we're not able to connect to consciousness, like higher consciousness, because there's gunk and shit in the way. Or if we're not empty because our brain is like going, going, going with all these thoughts, it's our egoic mind, which is fine. Like we all have one. It's not to shame it, but if that's in the way, then we can't hear that gentle whisper coming from within. And that is what I call gnosis. This is exactly why this fuck, I get so I'm gonna like start my dragon. It's like this is why they did this. So we have so much noise and we're so programmed to not listen to that voice because that voice doesn't make sense. Our intuition never fucking makes sense. It's like the most illogical thing to do, and it's always right. Like it everything that we've been taught, it's the fucking opposite.
SPEAKER_00:But it's it it makes a lot of sense when you think if you cut somebody off from that inner knowledge, they're much easier to exploit and manipulate. 100%.
SPEAKER_03:Because like they're relying on the ex like the external validation, the external guidance, the government telling them what's right and wrong. When you tune in, you know what's right and wrong. Well, there is no right and wrong like that. I believe that that's arbitrary and there is no one definite right or wrong. But what serves the greatest good of all? What serves evolution? What serves humanity? Like you're getting to a point of like there is no separation between me and you, and there's no separation between me and the earth. So when I go inwards and I tune in for that information, naturally, organically, the I call them downloads. That's a word that I probably get some shit for, but like the downloads I receive inherently are gonna serve the planet. And this is the feminine. The feminine's naturally connected to what would serve the earth, and it's in us because we literally birth earth through our fucking womb. We birth life through our womb.
SPEAKER_00:I I uh I had this fantastic chat with this Russian man. He was a financier of oligarchs, so he was as well as holy shit.
SPEAKER_03:I need to get him and like be an oracle for him.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god, yeah. But yeah, we we were chatting, we were chatting all about you know, different kind of different ways, you know, people in the West relate versus in Russia. And he had this beautiful line about the the the women of Russia. He said, our women in Russia would never lower themselves to the levels of men.
SPEAKER_03:I love that energy. I love that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:Right? There was such a high sense of reverence and respect and care for the feminine. Yeah. That is actually, I would say, lost a lot of ways in Western worlds where a lot of women are almost competing for parity or equality with men. And it's like, no, no, no, you've lost the point. Don't sell yourself short. You are far more special. But you're Greek.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And tell me more.
SPEAKER_03:The woman is like the head of the household in in Greek culture. We are like goddesses, like what mama says, mama goes. However, we are still very much like, well, the mother is the nurturer, cook, clean, raise the children, you know, like so it is that, but the m she's respected. She is respect. You talk back to your mom, you get fucking smacked in the head. And I love that energy. And I'm actually very traditional, like in that way. I believe in these gender roles. Like, I believe in polarity and I believe in these strong gender roles, but they do, they've definitely like Greek boys love their mom a little bit too much. It's a little bit a-pool at um No, I I I wholeheartedly agree.
SPEAKER_00:I love I love this kind of difference as well. I think this is there's a real oddity in our world where everybody's trying to be something other than they are, and there's very little idea of what it is that you actually are.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And and that kind of that lack of groundedness and that lack of clarity around who you are, who you aren't, is just so bloody disorientating. And I think, you know, people think they're they're gaining freedom when in actual fact they're they're actually missing out on so much. Um yeah, there's this, let's say, this giant identity crisis. Um, but it's like all things. I think I'm I'm actually quite excited about where this goes because I think when the world goes extreme in one direction, it generally speaking recalibrates the next and settles in between. Um but okay, so give me an idea then. You, as an oracle to emperors um and empresses, uh what I'm actually hearing more so from your work is my idea was oh, uh chat to the oracle and hear what they have to say. But in actual fact, what I'm kind of getting from what you're sharing is that you actually just help people connect in with their inner oracle.
SPEAKER_03:100%. But so yes, yes. But there is when okay, how do I I particularly work with people who are here to do really big things. And so for me, when I was channeling all this information about like you're here to do this and you're gonna bring this book and it's gonna reach hundreds of thousands, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was like a lot for me to receive. And I was like, is this just like spiritual ego? Is this like some fucking like Jesus syndrome? You know, like I was really like, I had to have like four or five other oracles reflect this back to me without me um telling them anything to see me in my highest timeline, for me to be like, okay, this really truly is that big, and what I am bringing here is that big, and no wonder why I'm shitting myself and running away from it every minute. So that's what I kind of do for people. Like I see them in their highest timeline, what they're here to bring forth, and I help them bring it into existence. But then there's another element to my work, which is activating oracles. So I do two things. Like, so I work with people who are like, I'm on a mission, I don't have fucking time to like truly fully channel this off myself. I just need confirmations and like that, that like, okay, yes, this is the best move to make.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The other type of people I work with, the oracles and priestesses, and and some men as well, really, and men can be oracles, so I'm gonna just get rid of the gender around that at all because it's like priest-priest. Anyway, it doesn't matter, arbitrary. Helping them to purify their channel so they can receive that guidance because it's almost like validation, right? So it's like it's like validate when three people say the same thing to you, it becomes like, okay, I'm not fucking crazy because I'm telling you, I'm bringing back information and wisdom that's been buried for like thousands of years. This morning I did I'm holding this mystery school at the moment at the moment, and I was channeling these things about free earth energy grids and Atlantis and Lemuria and like some crazy world out there shit that like it's like beyond. And I don't watch things to get my information, I receive them. And even I'm like, this is this is like this, I need a confirmation for this, like to make you know, so it's things like that, like cutting-edge technologies from other places.
SPEAKER_00:Um I I um love what you touched on there, and that you don't watch TV, let's say, or you don't overly expose yourself to media.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So what I find is that that can become enormously distracting, yeah. Um, but also corrupting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So like if there's so much information being taken in externally, it has an impact internally. And it can become like I think a lot of the lot of the time, certainly people come to me as well, and they're like, Jamie, I feel really overwhelmed. I'm I'm indecisive, I'm struggling. And if you almost go through it, like, well, let's look at an average day. Let's look at how many random conversations you're open to, how much media you're consuming, like there's not a still minute where you don't have a podcast telling you how you should be living, or an Instagram uh post or story highlighting the kind of life you want, but perhaps aren't living.
SPEAKER_01:It's a lot. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's a lot, a lot. And I I find it's it's so obviously distracting that people don't talk about, like, people will talk about the benefits of fasting, but they won't talk about necessarily like withdrawing that little bit from society so you can actually just think for yourself. And we don't associate like nervousness, our anxiety, our overwhelm with an overconsumption of media and the obviousness of how well, if you just calm yourself down and pull yourself back, that in itself can be so medicinal.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I completely agree. And adding on to what everything you just said, because that's I don't need to elaborate on that, it's pretty clear, and I completely agree. Lots of things like platforms like social media platforms and advertising, and these things have either subliminal messaging underneath them, or there's any like this is on a high esoteric level. There is energetic siphoning going on, entities, all sorts of fucked up shit that happens on energetic levels.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, let as I point the finger and I'm like, ah, this is a subject I I'm so curious because I I can't help but think when I'm watching a movie that there is an underlying this is how you should live.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:And and you know, sometimes that's really obvious. Like, let's say, for example, sake, tensions are high between America and Russia. Suddenly, all the villains in all the movies are Russians. They used to be Iraqi, then they were Afghanistan. But also how heroic it is to give yourself to your country and be American. But but not even that. Like if you're stressed, you should go to the bar and have a drink. Um if you are upset with your partner, you should isolate yourself, go to somewhere very, very quiet and think on your own.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it's like, oh, you should reconnect. Like, there's all these almost automatic responses. And like if we go into Disney, the whole idea of like you said it. Yeah, it has to be like Disney, I think, is the worst culprit in regards to this. That they're like tuning people with this idea of like find your prince, find your princess, live happily ever after, and teed up for yeah, teed up for also as well, like being very funneled towards monogamy is your only way to relate. Um, and it's um, yeah, it's like a society is being groomed through media. And for me now, when I just watch a movie or anything like that, the second I get an ounce of I'm being told how to live through this, I I find myself repulsed. I find myself actually very angry and a feeling of like, hey, I'm I've been taken advantage of here. I'm paid for this movie. You should be paying me to manipulate me at this case.
SPEAKER_03:I agree with you. I watch movies like because sometimes I really need to do some basic human shit. Like I have to, like it's a practice for me. How human can I fucking be? Because I'm so not human. So I actually I love like just binging Netflix and eating a burger and just being really basic and human. And I love it, but I've learnt to be like, okay, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. Like I know that they're programming the fuck out of this. I know that there's like probably entities every time I watch a horror movie. I don't watch horror movies for that reason. It's like I can't even hold the frequency of fear. Like, but I'm very aware of that. And I think once you're aware of it, you can choose whether to engage with it or not. Like it's a like the same thing as like when people go on this spiritual journey, usually what they do is like, I stopped drinking, I stopped doing this, I stopped partying. Not you. We know that you're not like that at all, Jamie. I love that about you. Right. But like once you've stripped all that back and you've seen, like, okay, this is like really bad for me to do meth. I don't know, like that was a really bad thing.
unknown:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:That just went whoa. Just drop that one in after. For the record, never done meth.
SPEAKER_00:I do not do meth. Wow. I can't believe I have to say this. Thanks, Bang. Thanks so much. Talk about programming.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Jeremy does meth. No. Um, once you've like established, okay, this is what it does for my body, then you can consciously choose. I'm gonna engage with this, right? I feel like a lot of people get too serious and too like angry about the system. Like, I'm at a point where I'm just like, I see it, it is what it is. I'm over here, away from it, doing my own little fucking thing, and that's great. And I drink wine sometimes and I eat burgers and I watch Disney movies, and I'm fantasize about my prince coming to rescue me, except he's a king, not a prince. Oof. So yeah, oof.
SPEAKER_00:Is he in a on a horse or is he in a limo?
SPEAKER_03:He's riding a dragon. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I'm glad you said that. Uh yeah, that that I I'm coming to this term of like, Jamie, don't assume you know better. Don't assume you know best, because there is this, let's say, spiritual superiority that's to like radiated from me for years of like, this is the way things should be. Without this uh perhaps trust that in actual fact there's a higher power and intellect at play, and sometimes things need to swing one way to swing the other way to ultimately speaking balance out. And so yeah, I get I get I get annoyed when I feel like I'm being used. Let's say I'm manipulated through a TV show, I like I have my guard down, and I withdraw in some regards. I will, of course. Indulge in others, but the the thing of this is wrong is an interesting one. I'm like, well, is it actually? Because it it it it really you're kind of faced with a challenge. It's like, do you rise up above this bullshit or do you get consumed by it? And in actual fact, is that kind of more Murphy's law of like survival of the fittest? Is this if an a kind of a fantastic clearing uh exercise? It's not nice to think, but nature has a fantastic way of doing that.
SPEAKER_03:Keep my mouth shut.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, please, please, like I challenge the shit out of me. I'm just, you know, to make sense of our world is a really challenging thing to ensure you can actually live in this world and not get so upset. Because in my journeys, meeting some fantastic, beautifully spiritually minded people, so many of them go through these really challenging overwhelms and depressions and frustrations and isolations as a result because they just can't live in this world anymore.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And I think that that's not the fucking role. Like, that's not the point of a spiritual awakening. You're not trying to. I work with many like starseeds. Like, that's the I I make fun of that term because I think we're here to fucking be in a human body on a fucking human earth, or you would have been an Arcturian and another, you know, like you would have been a light being if you didn't want to be a human. And so I actually believe that ascension or evolution is through the human body, through the human vessel. It's being fucking human and it's bringing divinity down here into the human experience. So if you're like, it's so hard being human, it's so heavy, the government's trying to fucking poison the water, like they're trying to put some like and you get angry, like that's the first step, is like, I'm this is I'm awake to what is happening. The problem is so many people get trapped there and like I want to get in my spaceship and leave this planet and like fuck Earth, right? Or like they get trapped in the conspiracy theories of the reptilians and the draconians and the all the government conspiracies, right? We're not here to get caught into that. That's what we've been doing for thousands of years of this cycle. We're here to break free from that cycle in sovereignty and rise as Christ did humans, which means taking back our power and sovereignty and being like, okay, I'm not gonna pay attention to that dialogue anymore and I'm gonna build something new. That's who I serve. The people who are like, I'm aware of what the fuck the system is and it's broken. I'm gonna create a new system, right?
SPEAKER_00:Do you know what? Look, when you shared that uh talks into that, a memory came up of me being about 19.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And at 19, I was getting very into holistic living. And uh and I at that stage I was experimenting with a vegan diet. Like I didn't want to eat meat because that had issues. I didn't want to eat dairy because that had issues, I didn't want to eat sugar because that had issues. I saw issues with everything. I was so anxious of water that I actually cornered myself into a point where I I actually had almost panic attacks eating anything.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:And I it's funny, like this. I I don't think anybody around me would have known it, but like I got I got so unbelievably stressed. Food in particular, but then it was the idea that if I'm going out into streets, I'm I'm I'm breathing in exhaust, I'm if I'm like showering, I'm showering chlorine and like the clothes, if I'm wearing the clothes, the clothes had detergent on them. Oh my god, exhausting. Exhausting. What I noticed though, and I'm so glad I could kind of observe it, is I was like, Jamie, the more you're doing this, the more hypersensitized you're coming, you're becoming, and you're really causing yourself a mental disorder. I caught it early and was able to be like, just have a beer, have a burger, let this show down. And I realized there was like a law of diminishing returns.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's like if you go down that chasing perfection, an actual fact that causes so it causes so much stress that that in itself is the imperfection. There's a fine balance. I then actually found this incredible kind of diet nutrition expert, a guy named Alan Flanagan, who helped me realize that in actual fact, uh tactically poisoning yourself is really, really good. Um, it's very highly stimulating for the system and expands your capacity. I didn't realize like we're like a muscle. When you read about it, there's some certain sensitivities, but with exposure, you can expand your capacity for them.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So this is what happens on the spiritual awakening journey is all sorry to bring it back, but I'm all about spirits. So I just love taking what you're saying and being like, yeah, and then I can apply this. When you awaken everything and you open everything, at most point people tend to become a little bit like self-righteous, and they're like, Oh, I don't want to hang out with the normal humans in the supermarket. Like I'm a yeah. So I was like that, the muggles for about a year. And I was like, I couldn't fucking function. I couldn't go out of the house because I was like so sensitive. I was like, oh, that negative person, this negative person, like entity, whatever. They're attacking me, they're siphoning me. I got over it at a point, and now I'm like able to be in these environments which are very dense, very heavy, because it's like the exposure, right? Like once you like learn that it's like it's serving you, and like how the fuck are you supposed to supposed to spread your light if you're in your house, you're not leaving it because you don't want to be around the people?
SPEAKER_00:Like it's it's it's about as effective as the person who comes out of a relationship and declares that they're gonna go celibate. Yeah. And they're gonna heal their heart out of relating. Well, I'm celibate.
SPEAKER_03:So I'm triggered by that. No, I'm kidding. By choice. But I'm multi-orgasmic without being touched, so I don't fucking need a man right now.
SPEAKER_00:This is bullshit.
SPEAKER_03:It's not bullshit, James. You watch me. You literally watch me like around. I don't know what we yes.
SPEAKER_00:Back to you need some coaching.
SPEAKER_03:I don't need some coaching from you. No.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, just as a bit of an insight for me, I always get very sad when people say they they they've gone celibate for a while. I completely understand, like, and can see the benefit of it. We talked about the benefits of fasting and everything like that, but I just get sad.
SPEAKER_02:Why?
SPEAKER_00:Because there's such joy in pleasure and there's such fun in sexual connection. And when people are like, oh, I'm pulling back, I'm like, I get it. It can be helpful to a point, but please don't miss out on the fun of life. Yeah. The same way, like you talked about a burger. Burger's tasty.
SPEAKER_03:True. Coca-Cola can be nice. But you do also reach a point where for me, my erotic current will fuck a man up who is like it wolf, like I need to be careful about him and myself.
SPEAKER_00:Beck, you love the feminine so much. What about a woman then instead?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I've tried.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:It wasn't for me. And you know what's interesting because there was this point when I was awakening everything. I just kept having these like insane lesbian dreams and like wanting to fuck with it was like crazy because in the mystery schools in the ancient, you're like, I'm now intrigued, and this podcast is going somewhere.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no, no, no, not at all. I'm like, there's certain moments where I'm like, what have I gotten myself into? That's it, that's it.
SPEAKER_03:So wait, like, this is an actual thing that happens, and it happens to a lot of women who work with me. They're like, Beck, why am I suddenly having these erotic fantasies about women? And like, I'm like eating women out and I'm loving it. I'm being fisted, and like it gets pretty intense, right? Because in the ancient mystery schools, that's how we would awaken each other's like sexual energy. And so for me, yeah, well, not maybe through fisting. I mean, there's a lot of energetic passive passageways in that part of your body, but no, literally through eroticism, through that, but it wasn't for the this is what I'm trying to educate you on in this moment. There is a point when sexual energy transcends the need to stick it in and have a physical experience. For me, my experience of sexual energy is so divine that I would not ever compromise my vessel, my holiness, for someone who didn't understand and have reverence for the current that was running through me. So that current is for God, it's for my creations, it's for what I'm doing. And if finally a man comes, and I it's not to say that I I have never had sex in my life, like I've definitely had lovers in the past year who wanted that current and were capable of meeting me, and there was a beautiful sacred union that took place in that configuration, in that connection. However, these were men who were able to fully understand me and see it, and I felt revered and I felt safe. And now I'm at a point where I'm like, I I really this current at this point in my life is for building my temple. Like it's for building Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I don't hear you're celibate though. I just have I hear you have high standards.
SPEAKER_03:No, I I'm celibate. I'm intentionally not engaging in sex with anyone.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, but Prince Charming comes in in his dragon on his dragon.
SPEAKER_03:Is he a king or is he a prince?
SPEAKER_00:He's no he is king charming on on like mega super duper Daenerys dragon.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:And he's like, hey there, babe. I heard you're celibate.
SPEAKER_03:Right. I'd be like, well, then take me on 50 dates and worship the ground that I walk on and we'll talk about it.
SPEAKER_00:50.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe not 50, maybe like it depends. Good.
SPEAKER_00:It depends. Your standards are high. I don't think you're celibate.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Okay. Yeah. My standards are high because I'm here for sacred union.
SPEAKER_00:And this is great. This is brilliant. I think look, the the more work you do on yourself, the more you can see clearly what it is that you like and what it is that you don't, who it is that brings out the best of you, best in you, and who it is that brings out the worst in you. And why would you want to entertain anything that doesn't bring out the best in you, are certainly close to it. So again, yeah, I just hear high standards. And I think that's the really beautiful thing that as we progress in our lives, we become more discerning and we become less open to those silly essentially occurrences and events that ultimately speaking undermine our best self because we we also realize how sensitive that highest capacity is, that you nurture it with people that will meet you, and unfortunately, you undermine it with people that won't.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And not just people, but entities and experiences and energies and anything like that, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. There's this thing that keeps going in my mind that you've correlated, I'm like, it's actually starting to, I'm feeling the fire coming up in me. You've correlated celibacy to someone who is not sexual at all. And I find that that's the complete, I'm the most sexual I've ever, like, I-ho. Like it's just I'm not relating that physically. And I think there's this trap in the tantric world and in people who are polyamorous of shaming people who are on this path to sacred mat. Really, like, I'm gonna fucking call you out on this because I'm like, for you're oh, you're repressed. Oh, you're not that's very like closed-minded or not evolved of you to not want to fuck 50 men in a temple. And I'm like, my energy is fucking sacred. My pussy is sacred. Just one second again.
SPEAKER_00:So as this conversation is developing, I think it's very, very important having dropped in the 50 men. I do not sleep with 50 men either. Thank you very much. But just ripping it. But yeah, like Jesus. Uh talk about programming. Um, but uh what uh I I actually wasn't um I wasn't so the the definition of celibacy I would say is abstaining from sexual energy and contact, right? Okay, but when it when I hear what you're sharing, no, you're nurturing, you're actually you're yeah, you're nurturing and caring for your sexual energy and you're not entertaining anything that won't meet you. I don't hear that you're like, I am celibate for the next year. I hear that you are holding yourself for somebody that will meet you. Beautiful, and an actual fact calling that energy in.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:And a lot of my work, like you know, the at the bottom of deep coaching is energetics like yours, and our words are powerful, our words cast spells. So when we say we're cutting something off, we might be wondering why isn't King Charming on his fantastic dragon showing up? And it's like, well, because you're saying you're not open for it. Yeah, and that's why I actually push. And so it's not me putting you down. Yes, it's actually me really helping you open yourself up in that regard.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I love that. Thank you. I just there was a distinction because I think when I first discovered sacred sexual, I was a whore, and I need to put that out there. And I'm putting that out there for like the world to hear. I have no shame, not a literal whore. I didn't accept money, money for sexual service. I need to also make that clear. But like, I did not respect my sexual energy. I didn't respect myself. I had a very big inversion, I was like counting notches on a belt like a man, and that I used that to validate me. And so I literally had to go celibate and like completely reclaim that energy for myself, for God, for impurity and devotion. Okay. So that I was celibate.
SPEAKER_00:That sounds like a celibate passage. I was celibate. Okay, and that sounds like actually a very like, all right, okay, that's a cleansing period, right? That sounds like a fast, that sounds like it led to a good recalibration.
SPEAKER_03:Abstinence. Absolutely, right? So yeah, I think maybe celibate, we just had different interpretations of that word, but it's like these gates are not opening.
SPEAKER_00:Unless somebody could firmly knock on them, yeah? And then to the right, they're the right. Okay. I I think I want to ask you to take your fuck you back.
SPEAKER_03:Take my fuck you. Okay, I rescend my fuck you.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you back. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_03:But that fuck you extends to every single person out there putting pressure on women like me to like go to a fucking orgy in the guise of a sexual. Like, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00:There is putting pressure on you to go to orgies. We need to talk with your friends circle.
SPEAKER_03:There's a lot of look here in Bali, I'm not super, I'm not super impressed with the tantric scene.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, alright, okay, because you've been there done the.
SPEAKER_03:I have been dragged, kicking and screaming to a few temples, and there was one recently in Talom I went to, and my body literally made me. I'm not gonna go graphic with that. I'm gonna actually choose my words very carefully. I got physically ill, very physically ill. Yeah. Before the actual temple started, and I was sick. I was like vomiting. My body was like, you need to get the fuck out of here before it even starts.
SPEAKER_00:Wasn't that so good though? Sorry, that you had that reaction. Like, I think it's quite interesting. Some people when they're like, you know, they they get upset with themselves for their sensitivity. I actually remember um Rich Roll was speaking in Ireland. I put up my hand and I was like, Rich, like I've cleaned up my diet, but now it's getting so sensitive. And I'm so frustrated about that. And in actual fact, his his answer wasn't good enough. I would I would say, but what I've come, I remember that like that was me 12, 13 years ago so upset with actually a sensitivity that I'd worked so hard for.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That like when we, and let's say in this example, me with regards to diet, when we start eating cleanly, our bodies clean up and they become all the more sensitive as a result, which is brilliant because they start communicating with us all the better. And I see this not just in diet, I see this in habits, not just in habits, like exercise, routines, work styles of the people I work with, but the people I relate with. And so, like there are so many people that would have gone into, let's say, those tantric circles at those temples and not had that tunement and only and discernment and sensitivity. And I think like a lot of people, I think in all our sexual journeys, we all end up doing things that years later, days later, sometimes in the moment, we're like, what the hell are we doing? And so good for your heart and your gut to catch up with yourself so that it doesn't give you the feedback two months later or a week later, or a day later, or on the moment, it actually gives you it well up in the front.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it's like, do you know what this isn't for you? That's not to say it's not for loads of other people, and it's not to say that it isn't medicinal and fantastic for loads of other people, but we're all uniquely individual. And uh to have that capacity to be able to know what's for you and what's not in advance, that's something you work hard for.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So lucky you and when you're talking about the sensitivity, it reminds me of people that I work with who are very, very sensitive and they see it as like this horrible thing that they have to see. I'm extremely sensitive, like very, very attuned to subtle frequency, the tiniest little shift, and I feel it. And that's my gift, it's my superpower. And we almost have to like work with those sensitivities and create like I wouldn't say protection for ourselves, but create create I don't want to explain this. Not fail-safes either. I can't communicate what I'm trying to say here, like create structures around our sensitivity that serve it.
SPEAKER_00:It's a weird thing now that a lot of people uh oh, well, everybody's trying to be the like everybody else. How many bloody Kardashians are there when you walk down the street? And it's it's you know, people have these ideals and this kind of celebrity wants and desires, and and we think that if there's something different about us, there's something wrong. An enormity of my work is helping people reframe and helping people do exactly what it is that you just shared, which is like your sensitivity isn't an issue, it's actually a superpower. Yeah, and I'm amazed that when we do that as an exercise, how much stress goes, how much energy is relieved, and and then yes, the opportunity to reinterpret something that was seen as an issue, uh as actually an asset, yeah, comes. And it yeah, like I I actually love you. Sometimes see this in superhero movies movies. I'm thinking like X-Men, but sometimes the odd type that has the superpower.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And actually, yeah, but like the X-Men, they were all they were all odd types with unique superpowers. And I I don't think we like as much as I talked about programming in a lot of TV, I think there's also programming to the opposite as well. Like, I think there's movies out there that are really trying to open people up, like The Matrix, for example. But in the example that I've just shared, X-Men 2, it's like, hey, you're not like you're not a societal reject. Yeah, actually, there's a superpower inside you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And um I remember I was obsessed with magicians. Magicians are kind of interesting. Like oftentimes there's quite a like a challenge socially. Um, please God, I'm going for a hell of a stereotype. But this was certainly the stereotype that I found that I get challenged socially, a lot of time in a room, a lot of time practicing a trick for attention. That when they finally do, it's so heavily rewarded that it justifies, okay, let's go back again and do it again. But it's bred from a time of disease and it's bred from a time of challenge. And I would say that most of the highly, highly skilled people, their skills don't come from ease. They come from friction, they come from challenge, they come from disease. And there isn't that, let's say, universal understanding enough that for whatever it is that you think may be your issue, who knows, if you see through it, there might actually be a huge asset and opportunity in it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we call it, I mean, in astrology, it's your Chiron, which is like your deepest wound is your deepest gift. I also call it like being forged like a diamond. My book is called Diamond Light Oracle, and it's about how in the intense struggle or like the it's like being pressed and squeezed in that experience, something beautiful is formed, which is a diamond. And that's like, I believe personally, that we all come in here with a certain dharmic path, like a certain something, I call it a soul codex as well, certain codes or certain knowledge or certain gifts that we're here to bring into the world. And if everyone is trying to be like everyone fucking else, then you're not walking your path, which is your unique reason for being here. And I see that this new earth we're moving towards, people talk about the new earth, is everyone getting to bring their unique medicine, their unique gift, their unique flavor, their unique thing. And it's like if everyone is being their unique self, what a fucking incredible world we'll live in because it's it just fits perfectly, like this big web, right? And all the pieces fit with each other. Like you can't have five chefs and no dish guy. That was a really bad example. But you know what I'm saying? Like, it's good.
SPEAKER_00:Like I I remember seeing Instagram. So I in a prior life used to, would you believe it'd be called Mr. Social Media?
SPEAKER_02:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00:Oh wow. I I set up one of Europe's first social media agencies and I used to speak a lot about it. And I got very excited as uh Instagram was developing because I was like, wow, people have to, you know, basically snapshot their lives in a picture. And and so I remembered like as Instagram was developing, people suddenly were going for hikes more, for swims more, or being more active, more creative. It initially obviously was for a lot of artists, but as it developed out, people it almost was this encouragement to do more with yourself. And I I love this idea of like yeah, we we we are encouraged to be our individual selves. Like I love the fact that online, uh, where people were perhaps solo in their communities, like the only gay in the village. Well, in actual fact, if you're online, there's an enormous community for you to tap into. Or the only person with an interest here, no, you're not actually globally, there's a huge community. So I loved the way the internet won in, say, social media, in like there's obviously loads of negatives, but some of the positives were it was encouraged. People to express their individual self, their creative self, and then two, it gave people community in that individuality, whereas before they were kind of the solos in their community, and now suddenly they had real hardcore community. And I am I love rewinding a little bit, but but this idea of like there is a hero's journey in all our lives, and it is not meant to be blissful. There's a kind of an understanding that when kids go through p puberty, they're annoying shits. And there should all like I wish there was a little bit more of that around like, do you know, between 27, 28, 29, you're kind of coming into a Saturn returns kind of time. You're gonna go through chaos, you're gonna have like a quarter life crisis, and that's okay. Yeah, it's actually to be expected, but I I don't think there is that. I think there's this idea that you know, really we should put our best foot forward, we should be as perfect, and if if there's anything wrong, that's an issue. Yeah, if you're in any way different, that's an issue. And I think one, a lot of people miss out in the bl in the bliss that can come from uh let's say a Saturn returns time, uh, and a lot of people can miss out in the gifts that they've been given that perhaps in their early days look like issues. And what I'm kind of hearing and getting an idea from like astrology, which obviously is a big part of your work, but also that kind of like helping people tap into themselves that little bit more is helping people give a little bit more understanding to themselves that these times that people think are happening to them are not they're happening for them. Yeah, they're very natural. Yeah. And in actual fact, it's a gift to get to experience that most people are so busied in their lives and stressed in their lives that they don't even get to notice that they're unhappy and disconnected, let alone go through the process that will come from that.
SPEAKER_03:For me, my my question is how is this for me? When anything happens that's even mildly shitty, I ask myself, how could this be for me? How could this be working in my favor? How could this be supporting me in some way, right? Some of the most fucking horrific things that I've been through, I've been through a lot in five years. People are like, oh, Oracle, that's easy. I'm like, you have no idea the depth of hell that I've had to walk through in five years and what I've had to move through. And I'm not saying that with arrogance, I'm saying that with like, I was put on my knees and fucking humbled to be able to do what I do. And there used to be a point where I'd be in victimhood around like everything that happened, and this is not fair, and like, why do I have to hold the weight of the world and it's so heavy and like all these initiations is bullshit. I just want to like fucking have a husband and go on land and like, you know, like whatever, right? And I started seeing it as like I would notice when I was put on my knees and I went through the most brutal heartbreak in my fucking life, and I was like on the floor wanting to kill myself. I've been to points many, many times where I'm pushed to such grief and pain that I wouldn't kill myself, holding the weight of the world, right? Having to clear that, move that through my body, severe attack, like I won't even get into like what I've had to go through, squeeze like a diamond, right? But on the other side of that death, there is always a rebirth. And I'm so fucking thankful because I look back and I'm like, oh, I understand why that had to happen to create this version of me that you see here. And she's gonna keep evolving. There's always more. And so whenever something happens in my life that I find deeply challenging or painful or just it's uncomfortable, I now have this higher perspective of, but look at everything that has happened as a result of like I would not have two books published that are bestsellers. Like if I hadn't gone through both of my books, are literally testimonies to like being put on my knees in different contexts and being forced to face and deal with things. Like they're my medicine now that I've refined, that I'm helping people through. And so if one person, I mean, more than one person's read the books, obviously they're bestsellers, but like if one person benefits from what I went through in my pain that I alchemized, then it's worth it, right? And so now I'm like, whenever something, something challenging happens, it actually just brings me closer to God. It just brings me closer to my truth, my and I ask my question is like, how can I love through this? Where is this just more love wanting to come through that I'm blocking the flow of love? Because usually what it is, whatever happens, is just an opportunity for more love for us to alchemize something into even more love. And that's really why I'm here. Like that's my primary goal is to be a vessel of unconditional love.
SPEAKER_00:I think that's a real um, it's a difficult thing as like a friend, our parent, our lover, um, to let people have their pain.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:To let people uh go through their suffering.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. My mom said to me, she said to me so many times, like, why do you have to suffer? I watch you suffer. Well, I watch what you go through and like, I wish you didn't pick this path. I wish you didn't have to, like, I don't want to watch you suffer like this. And I'm like, Mom, I'm good. I'm like crying, laughing, orgasming simultaneously, and I'm good. Like, I this is fine.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, I'm trying to get that image out of my head. Crying, laughing, orgasming. All you needed to say was pooing at the same time. It would have just been like, oh, good.
SPEAKER_03:Sometimes that does happen. No, um, you know, and I try and explain to her, I chose this path. I'm not a victim, I chose this path. Yeah, I could, I was gonna say I could easily walk away from it, but I can't. Like, I I don't feel like I can because I've tried and it just pulls me back because it's a higher calling. It's like I can't just be be normal, like it's not possible.
SPEAKER_00:I have this um I have this fantastic uh astrologer, come astro cartographer that works for me.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, how did that go? Oh my god, yeah, amazing.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, his name's uh Andrew Smith, and uh I always think it's very funny. He has a waiting list of a year. Um but he talked about like there like in astrology, there are moments and times. Like I I love the definition of astrology as simply the science of timing and that there are certain moments when there's opportunities to learn lessons. Yeah, and you can either open your arms and accept them and go through them, or you run away from them and they come back twice as challenging. You can still perhaps run away from that until the point that you get swallowed up. Yeah, and so yeah, I love I love this kind of understanding now of like, well, there's definitely wisdom in whatever's unfolding here.
SPEAKER_03:And if you don't resist it, it's so much easier, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and but to the onlookers, you may look like this pain glutton when in actual fact it's like, no, no, I just recognize this is my path, yeah. I'm gonna dive through it. Yeah, it's kind of lovely. I have this image. I I love my sea swims in the morning, and I I got caught. It's kind of funny. I was going into the sea with somebody, they decided not to get in because they thought it was too wild. So I was halfway in and I was like, it's not wild at all. It's absolutely perfect. I turned around and no joke, I'm six foot five. There was a wave easily twice the size of me. Oh, and it's one of the funnier things, and like in a split second, you have this like, do you run away from it? In which case you will literally get bashed and scraped off the sand. Or do you duck and dive straight into it? You duck and dive straight into it, and you go straight through, and it almost pushes you at the end. It's actually quite a lovely experience. I think it's a great analogy for life. Yeah, and it's so difficult in all of those moments when you're looking at a wave literally twice the size of you, so strong, so powerful, so loud, and it's like smile on my face, straight through.
SPEAKER_03:It keeps reminding me of plant medicine. And I don't I want to say for the record, like I don't do plant medicine anymore. I don't need it. I'm a walking ayahuasca journey, but at the start of my journey, I did this five gram mushroom trip, psilocybin. It was like 2018 or so, 2019. Such a small dose. Yeah, just a tiny little baby. Anyway, it was very challenging. It was extremely challenging. But before I went in, I had this message of like this this mantra to go in with, mantra, sorry, of I trust you, mama. I trust you. So there was this concept of like whatever she was showing me. And I I relate to it like the mother, the mother earth, the mother spirit, the divine mother. That's how I relate to my when I did mushrooms. I could feel it as this maternal energy, right? And the mycelium, it makes sense like that the mushroom would show you that. And there was this concept that I went in with because I knew it would be fucking challenging, because I tried to sabotage myself from going many times subconsciously, to the point that I locked myself out of the apartment midway through a bathtub, the day of the thing, so like I couldn't get back. Yeah. So things like that kept happening because my ego was shitting itself, knowing I was about to experience possibly the biggest ego death I've ever experienced in my life. Anyway, had this concept of this mantra, which is I trust you, mama, I trust you. Trusting that the divine, my highest self, my inner whatever, my soul, the mother, what was going to be presented to me in that journey, no matter how dark, no matter how painful, no matter how uncomfortable it was for me. It was something that was going to support me deeply and not to avoid it, to go headfirst into it. And so I find for me, you know, it really helped. Because this like horrific stuff would come up. And I would just be like, I'm gonna go deeper into that. Let's go the for my thing throughout life, throughout healing, throughout whatever the experience is, is like, let's feel this fully, completely, totally, go headfirst into it, the shadow, the depth, the pain, the pleasure, whatever it is. Feel it fully and don't turn away from it. It's a very tantric um path that I walk, right? Like, I'm not talking about sacred sexuality tantric, I'm talking about engaging with life in this full, full way. Go into it fully, and then it passes. It's like that discomfort passes, and you're on the other side laughing your ass off, and you're so connected to everything, and you're like, oh my God. It was just this thing that I had to like see past it, that it was just an illusion. The pain was an illusion, the attachment was an illusion. When I let go of that attachment, it's like, ah, it's like the heartbreaks I've been through. My Chiron, for anyone who knows astrology, is in my seventh house. Lucky me. Which means that my greatest path for evolution and healing has been my relationships, my intimate relationships. And I have experienced extreme heartbreak so many times. But it's gotten me to the point now where my most recent experience with a man was like recent, really recently, like nothing happened, but I had this deep soulmate experience that was very activating. And in the past, I'd be devastated and heartbroken and like, why is this happening? And this, I was like crying, laughing, orgasming simultaneously when I was like, I'm so grateful that you came into my life back and showed me.
SPEAKER_00:Fuck the Oracle side of things. You just need to do a workshop teaching people how to cry, laugh, and orgasm simultaneously. This seems pretty good.
SPEAKER_03:It's pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, back.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but that that's I mean, that's what it was when I realized, like, oh my God, he didn't come in to make me realize that I'm empty or whatever, I'm in pain. It's like he's showing me what is like in the way of me being a pure vessel of love, even purer vessel of love. And so it was like the pain was there, but underneath the pain, there was this deep, profound like ecstasy of inner union, like sacred inner union with myself.
SPEAKER_00:I I find this side of things really hard. Um, because I I I I similarly, I would say, like, what's your greatest teacher? It's love, it's relationship. And um, oh, it's so nice to fall in love, so nice to have an experience, like a honeymoon period. And then let's say the normalization, like the calming of that as well. That's so, so lovely. But the the the breaks are are certainly for me, have been so unbelievably disorientating, challenging, um, upsetting. And and there's this weird part part of a grieving process. Perhaps it's like, let's say six months post-breakup, where you you're still healing from wounds, but at the same time, you're recognizing the value it's brought. And uh sometimes the healing is an actual fact how you see how you can love better going forward. You can um you can be more true to yourself going forward and more caring of yourself in terms of knowing what you want and what you don't, what you tolerate and what you won't. It's this, it's this odd, odd moment I I have, and I have had on numerous occasions where I'm like, that was horrific, that was horrible, but wow, that was valuable. And it's it fascinates me. Like you talked about plant medicine, and I've done some hell of uh hell of big journeys with plant medicine, and the nerves that go through me, the like the the the the roller coaster actually of emotions, it it fascinates me how before these moments of eure these eureka moments, we're met with some of our biggest obstacles. And so, like, yeah, that some of those plant medicine journeys where I came away with wisdom that I was like, oh my god, the amount of resistance that came up inside me before and the amount of work that I had to push through, and also like that feeling of like to love again, like to open your heart to another is so difficult, actually. Like it really is. I think sometimes people want to distract themselves, you know, but but actually to really properly bear your soul and and trust another and be vulnerable before another. Like Alan B de Bosson has this beautiful quote to love somebody is to be vulnerable um before another. And and yet still so unbelievably rewarding. And I again I perhaps that's why I challenge the abstinence thing. I because I'm like, um I think it's too easy to sit out of life. It's too easy to say, I've had enough. That's it, I'm on I'm I'm isolating. And I think it's very important actually for family, for friends to pull you back in.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And to let you know it'll be worth it on the other side. Yeah, which you know it, which it is. Like life, life, we have a beautiful way as humans of metabolizing challenges, experiences, of learning, of progressing. I think we prolong that when we isolate. And when we come back into community, we thrive.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I agree. I also think generally when we fall in love with someone, we are falling in love with the feeling of being in love, which is really just our essence, right? That person is helping us to tap into the love that is within us always, right? And so for me, it's like coming back to I don't need that person to feel complete love. I don't need that person to feel orgasmic all the time. I don't need that person to feel fired up and like creative. Like when you're in love, you're so creative and you're doing all these things and you feel so lit up and like excited and oh my God, my life's just beginning. It's that feeling we're in love with. It's not the person most of the time. So when that person goes, it's like we can't access that feeling and it's like, fuck, like I'm heartbroken. Who am I without you? And it's like for me, it's this lesson of like God keep or my highest of my soul, whatever keeps reminding me like it's not that person. The love is you, you are that love, you're that love, you're that love. You don't need that person. They're just bringing it out in you. And I've noticed whenever I alchemize a heartbreak and I come back to that infinite love that I am, incredible works are birthed through me. Both of my books came after huge, massive heartbreaks. And, you know, my abundance completely or like my money flows open, like I heaps of money, like amazing opportunities, things just go bam, and they like right. So I've seen this process so many times that I'm like, and and the other thing is like they just the loves keep getting better, more aligned, more like you said, like it's like we get that opportunity to refine. And so I know now from my experience that love is limitless. It's not we're not limited to one partner, one pathway, one one way of that love.
SPEAKER_00:And that's probably one of the ideas that's programmed into us.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You get one chance, one soulmate.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, guys, there are so many soulmates. I am living, breathing fucking testimony to this because I've encountered at least seven, and they're all brutal. The most recent one, like, and you were saying as well, like the celibate, but you're not in connection, and I want to challenge you. It's like I went through this whole experience with this man without a relationship, no relationship. Wow. And I was having this completely multidimensional fucking experience where I was healing so much deep trauma from within my heart, as if we were in an intimate relationship, no intimate relationship.
SPEAKER_00:Like I find it so fun chatting with you in that like so. My belief is that um there are multiple different dimensions playing out all simultaneously in life. And it's our it's our depth of consciousness, our perspective that allows us to float from one to the other.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So if you think about it, like when we were really young, um, we saw the life simply.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And as we perhaps matured a little bit more and life started really being challenging, we think we thought life happened to us. But if we embrace some of the philosophies that have been shared in this podcast, you start to see, well, actually, you know, and there's a bit of karmic reflection there. And if you can learn from that, you have much, much more power for going forward. I would say that as we deepen our consciousness and we can see how we can take responsibility for things that play out in life, we can take power to create different things that we want in life. We move to different dimensions. And I think like what you've delved into is a deeper perspective in terms of uh energetics, in terms of sensitivity, in terms of pleasure. And so you get to enjoy life in a different realm or a different dimension as a result. The likes of which somebody in a different dimension might look on and go, Oh, that's crazy. That makes no sense. It's like, yes, it does, of course, from your dimension. But you get to play in this dimension. And I I think that's kind of like why would you do why would you do coaching with a mystic, for example? It's like, or why would you engage with an oracle? It's like, oh, because you get to see the world from a different dimension. You get to show up in the world with different dimensional powers and realize a different existence as a result. It's like life is fun when we almost see it as levels. Yeah. And with each level, you get new tools, new skills, new capacities to go back and do the same life differently. It's fantastic or the same things differently. So cool.
SPEAKER_03:The spiral. That's such a beautiful way to like tile that in. Like I just what you said, I love it. I didn't even feel like I can say anything more, but like, and also my level is like basic starter kitch, starter kit level compared to some beings out there. Like, and I'm aware of that. So it's like we're always just evolving and there's no end.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Like I it's I fend that a very uh important note where my judgy self from years ago would cut me off from a lot of people. I would think, oh, that person's crazy. Whereas now I'm like, somebody's crazy, let me talk to them. I want to understand what world they're in. Yeah, and I um yeah, I find I found myself seeking out uh the misfits, the odd types because I think there's wisdom. Um, I think there's it's I think life it gets really, really, really interesting when we start seeing it from different angles, and all those different angles open up different opportunities, which can be really useful and tangible and useful in um in other areas.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I was feeling that coming.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, it's quite a pace we've been chatting at.
SPEAKER_03:I always you should listen to my transmissions sometimes, and I put them on double speed to listen back to myself, and I'm like, no one's gonna understand fucking it. Luckily, it's all frequency.
SPEAKER_00:So let me ask you this. I feel like I'm gonna squeeze you for a bit of a cheap session here. Like but love to. So coming back to Bali for me this chapter. Um, I'm amazed at like what my body is calling for, or like what my soul is calling for. It was like immediately like, Jamie, we don't want to have any sugar. I was like, wow, that's interesting. We don't want any gluten. It's like that's interesting. Don't really drink alcohol, don't really purification to coffee or anything like that. Certainly no myth. But like my body wanted that. Then it was like, we want to do a yoga practice, want to really open the body up, want to sit, want to read. I found I have this insatiable appetite now to read all about mystics and all about different philosophies in terms of emotional release and living life. Um and I I I I'm a big believer in that sometimes we like to think too high far ahead of the game and it blinds us in the present. So I just kind of focus on okay, well, where am I being led to? And I'm noticing I'm being led, like sorry, led on this path. My nervous system is calming a lot. The more I'm calming, the more I'm able to sit with myself. The more I'm able to sit with myself initially, my thoughts were all over the place. But as let's say this detox is kicking in more and more, the it's calming. And I'm starting to get like a little bit more decisive.
SPEAKER_03:Could you take this a few steps further and give me a You're going through a mission recalibration, which is I can see in your field happening. So, what's happening is you are being stripped back to bare bones, basically, and cleared out of like say past timelines, old bullshit, definitely a lot of. The partying is like leaving your system. But there's also, I'm seeing nuggets that you're integrating from those experiences that you had, but you need to be in the stillness and silence for your field to like fully land them and integrate them. So all of the, I'm seeing the information that you're picking up and like reading and consuming. There's like this breadcrumb trail of sp-I I say spirit, but is leading your higher self's leading you to consume more information that's going to change the trajectory of the work that you're doing very slightly. It's like a nano. You know how we were talking the other day about who you're here to serve and it's refinement, refinement, refinement. This feels like a very specific frequency refinement in who you're serving that is going to be more precise and it's going to have more impact than before. But there's something that you're going to be bringing to them and it feels like metaphysical knowledge. And it's like the fucking gifts that we talked about that you have that you're not using. I feel like that's going to be an aspect of it, like the energy work, but there's going to be pieces that you're learning from what you're consuming. Um, I'm also seeing your vessels being cleared to be able to work with energy in a more precise way. Bali's very powerful for bringing awake spiritual gifts, um, catalyzing spiritual gifts, catalyzing sight, that sort of thing, and purification. It's on the feminine, masculine, dragon line. I could go deep into that. I'm not going to, but that's why I'm here right now, running a pilgrimage up this dragon line. And this crossing point means that there is an intense purific purification karmically that happens. So it's like closing all old timelines that don't really um align anymore.
SPEAKER_00:So this like to drag it on a little bit more, I find it really interesting of like certain friends I've met with that I kind of caught up with and I realized in catching up, it was like, oh, this relationship's kind of expiring. Which you could say, it's saying, hey, we've had a lovely friendship, but like let's relieve the relieve ourselves of this kind of sense that we need to connect anymore. We don't. Um, there's certain events and stuff that I've went went to before that I enjoy that I've gone back to since, and immediately then and there I felt this repulsion, kind of the likes of which you felt like, oh, this isn't for me.
SPEAKER_03:You're moving into a different octave completely, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And fascinating as well. Like, so chatting with people, I'm amazed as well how like let's say the people that are coming into my life are all like so obviously following a similar path, and others that are perhaps just otherwise. I suppose it's like be conscious of the company you keep because some people will recognize you, see you, and compliment that on, others won't. They will see nothing in you. And I've had some very abrupt meetings where somebody would just go, Oh, you're far too intense for me. I need to go.
SPEAKER_03:How do you think it is existing in my avatar? I guess we'll call it.
SPEAKER_00:But I also felt the same as well that I was sitting sat around one or two people, and I I actually everything inside me was like, go, just go. I had a moment where I was sat with somebody and I literally had to say, I just need a moment, put my hand on my heart, closed my eyes, tuned in, my body was like, get away from this. So I was like, I need to apologize if this is going to be abrupt, but I wouldn't be honoring myself. Are you if I was here anymore? Goodbye.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That abruptness, but also the necessity for that, that's showing up a lot lot more as well, which I think I'd like to think is part of all of this. It's not just cleansing terms of the city.
SPEAKER_03:Precision and attunement I'm hearing because you're very sensitive as well. Like you wouldn't like say it, and probably people listening to this don't know this, but I know this about you, and we've talked about it. You're sensitive to subtle frequency. And with me as an oracle, I have to like literally fucking isolate myself sometimes for days. So I'm like not receiving anyone's stuff because I pick up on everyone's stuff all the time, even if I don't want to. I can like it's like it's my channel's very clear, right? And it goes me, source. There's no anything else. It's just me, source. And so when I'm in fields with other people around them, I I it's it's disrupted. Sometimes it's disrupted. So I have to go into silence and be very, you know, like very selective of who I talk to, what I engage with, um, who's with me so I can be a pure channel. That's what I feel like's happening for you. It's happening physically with all the clearing that you're going through, like the refining of your diet and like all these things that you've talked about, so your channels can be cleared, but it's also happening in your environment, in like who you're being called to spend time around, because we interface with each other. And even if, you know, we're not consciously like, let's do some energy work and sit and do a tantric exchange. Like we're exchanging codes with people all the fucking time. We're being activated by them. We're receiving. When we were sitting down, I could feel all sorts of energy moving between us, like the other day when we were sitting there, and I could feel, you know, I was like talking about kings, and I was like, whoa, like, you know, like we're being, we're interfacing with different mirrors all the time. And then sometimes it's like that mirror that's being presented, either it's a trigger that you need to look at, and that person's triggering some shit, or it's like, oh, I've done that lesson. I've passed that, and I've there's nothing more for me to learn here, so I'm gonna get up because this is a waste of my fucking time. I'm very discerning, not only with men, but like who I actually hang out with.
SPEAKER_00:Funny, that's one that's programmed into us again societally to not be discerning other companies. To be kind to be kind, to be understanding, to be loving to everybody. And it's like, hey, you can be kind and you can be loving, but if you are entertaining a company that is not entertaining you, you are not being kind to yourself. And in actual fact, you're bullshitting them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. And this is why I also say to people, like, be the most like I'm so fucking weird. You can attest to it. Like, I don't give a shit anymore about how weird I am. And I put it out there, like I immediately put it out there with anyone that I'm hanging out. I don't like lay it on, but like I'm just myself. I'm just completely authentically myself. And it's like people just let themselves out the door if they can't handle me. And here it's funny, I find I'm invisible in Changgu. I'm invisible, like literally, I just people don't notice me, which is insane. Because it's like there's a whole area of people, and people just walk like they just I'm invisible. And it's because I'm not even like it's just like they just can't see me. I'm not like in the same reality as people, and so they just don't, you know, like there's just this resonance with people, and people you have resonance with energetically, you gravitate towards. But I find here more than anywhere, I mean there are some people I have immediate resonance with, but here more than anywhere, I'm in a gym and I'm like, wow. Yeah, like I'm not people aren't even, they don't see me, you know, which is great.
SPEAKER_00:I I think it's it's funny that you said great, because to to others they might find that that's the saddest thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And what I love is that like we get to live life however we like. Like, there's let's say such an affection for people saying I'm a particular diet type. Yeah, like you're missing the point. Yeah. You can use a vegan diet to start like meditating and deeper connecting deeper and faster with the with different realms, or you can use a meat diet to feel really grounded. You can eat a fast food diet to numb yourself. You don't need to just subscribe to one. You can you can enjoy and actually use different diets to your advantage for wherever you're at in life. The same way, let's say, for example, like in environments. Like I love this. Like I talked about Andrew, the astrologer, he's really an astrocartographer, and the idea that different lands tune to you but differently, they bring out different elements in you. And that you'd love this. Can I tell you something? Yes. We're going through the uh the advertising of my business at the moment, and uh, and so I met with him to determine what are the cities around the world that would connect with my energy most, and we programmed the ads based on that.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. Oh my god, that is epic! I knew you'd like that. That is some meta. I love that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I I know somebody might be listening on being like, what am I? Yeah, that's enough now. I am not listening to this guy anymore, but I will tell you, I've tested it. Yeah, and I've tested it amongst markets that like I thought I should be good in versus the the markets that are tuned, let's say, to me and my astrology, and mine perform better always.
SPEAKER_03:Are you going by your Jupiter point, or like what do you what do you know what specifically he's using?
SPEAKER_00:At this point, I don't know. Thank God I lean into him for that. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Well, my Jupiter runs straight through Bali, and I can tell you whenever I'm here, money just comes. Yeah, yeah. So it is it's very it is accurate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I I so a big part of my travel is I'm like, I want to go to different places and experience different parts different means, and and people think that's crazy, but it's like, no, there's very obviously uh obvious societal differences in different lands, yeah. Um and energetic as well, and energetics, but the energetics is part of perhaps like some people might not get or get, but they get the societal differences, and so when you are in those lands being met differently by people, it shows you up differently, yeah, and you get to discover different parts of yourself, cultivate different neural passageways if you want to be all like science borough about it. And then when you leave, you get to choose what elements you take and what elements you leave behind, which brings up a great question is like, who are you over and above your environment?
SPEAKER_03:Is that a rhetorical question?
SPEAKER_00:Well, it was a big one for me because I I spent 30 years in Dublin and like I'm blessed with a really lovely family, network, friends, everything. And so much of that spoke for me. Yeah. And when I left there, and like when I first came to Bali, it was really interesting. Somebody being like, Who are you? What do you do? I was kind of like, You should know what I do. You should know. I like I had this sense of myself that was just erased. And now I I love that because it gives you a great sense of okay, well, you're not your past, you're not your reputation. You actually don't have a reputation, you're a blank camist. Who are you actually?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that's a lovely, lovely um space to get to work with every so often. So yeah, that's been a big motivator for me traveling more recently is just when you're in a completely different environment, nobody knows you, you have nothing behind you. How do you show up? How are you? When nobody's watching you, what do you do?
SPEAKER_03:I think that for me, like was why when I came here, I was guided to come here years ago, like five years ago. It's like I had nothing reminding me of who I was in my past, and so I could have this clean slate to heal and clear and activate and become someone new. It's like a complete death. So I completely agree with that. That's all I'm just gonna say. I agree with that, and also like I like the me that's in Mexico, she's really spicy.
SPEAKER_00:That's I love that you said that because I I find myself hilarious in New York where suddenly I'm like, I'm gonna take over the world, and all I want to do is work hard, play hard. Or I love I love me and Bally, like Jamie is in retreat mode. Um, me and a Beta. Oh god, you would be brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Interesting, me in London, depressed. Yeah, immediately like just overwhelmed, depressed, not good.
SPEAKER_03:Um I think that's everyone in London, to be fair. That's a pretty depressing place.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's such a tough environment.
SPEAKER_03:Heavy.
SPEAKER_00:I I just when I think of London, I think of ambulances because wherever I go, there's either fights, bicyclists getting into fights or ambulances going by. It was pretty much every day I would see that, and I was like, that's enough. It just it it it it yeah, it took a toll on uh on me. And I I I think that's actually a really important thing as well of knowing, like, yeah, some environments bring out the best, others are actually not are not good for you. And for however you might be struggling in that environment, and it might be so hard to think of being elsewhere. Well, think of it actually, if the odds were tilted more in your favor, how well would you be doing? I would argue that so many people that are suffering in one place could be enormously successful in another, and it's a thing we should take much, much, much more seriously.
SPEAKER_03:And can I just add one little because I'm like I have to it's like such a big part of the work that I do. Different lands have different frequencies and different codes that we activate by being on that land, like energies, ancient memories, like mysteries, these things in your face, just like No, I love this. Um yeah. Um, there was a shift in your face, it was interesting to watch. I I didn't know what it was.
SPEAKER_00:Um I'll tell you exactly what it was. At the start, you said that you were working with sacred sites. Yes. And mentally I had this thing of I want to talk about that. Okay, well, it's coming back. And so now that you're bringing it up, you're like the zone, you're like laying the foundation for it. It's quite an interesting thing sitting with somebody and saying, Okay, we're gonna have a conversation. There are like it's like it opens up a bit of a filing cabinet of mine, and there's loads of different parts that I'm like, oof, I'm gonna come back to that. The sacred sites.
SPEAKER_03:Great, amazing. So I believe that within the actual lands themselves, there is information coded, information, knowledge, wisdom from our forefathers, from our ancestors, but different lands have different frequencies as well. There are certain places on the earth who are more they're more powerful, like Bali, for instance, big fucking purification portal here. And it's based on where so they're ley lines under the earth. I call them dragon lines. There's feminine dragon lines, masculine dragon lines. You can just think of them as meridians if you don't want to go into the deep metaphysical speak around it. Like they're just like meridians, which are like the energy channels in our bodies, right? Highways. Highways, perfect, got it, there it is. Um, so yes, so there are there are very rare that there are crossing points of these two masculine and feminine lines. It's like in in in Chinese medicine, you can think of them as a yin and yang line. Like there's different currents, they run different directions, I guess you could say the most simple one is giving, one is receiving. It's a it's a very simple way to boil that down so I don't sound like a fucking crazy spiritual person, which I am. Um, so Bali has a very big vortex of, it's an amplification of cosmic energy, which helps us to purify and to clear. And there's a phenomenon here that even non-spiritual people fucking know of. All the nomads here will tell you this is a thing and it is known. Bali will bring you in and she will spit you out if you're not meant to be here. She will eject you. People have like all sorts of intense things happen, like they have a bike accident within their first three days, their villa gets broken into, their car gets stolen, they get robbed, and it's like, what the hell is going on here? You've known this, right?
SPEAKER_00:Or when it comes to say me saying, Oh, I've come here and suddenly I kind of need sugar, I need to go to the gym, I need to this, I need to that. You're called to purify.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, so she is very activating. She's a karmic purification portal. So if you have any karmic shit that you need to deal with, she'll bring it all up to the surface, which is super fun for my first two years here. But she's also deeply activating, right? Peru is a very similar grid. It's a very similar, it's also feminine, masculine lines cross. In Peru, there's Lake Titicaca, which is the sacral chakra of the earth. This time last year I was there doing, I was transmitting um a retreat, an online retreat, working with the energy there because these energies activate our energies. So the sacral there pings our sacral, and then we sync with that sacral, we receive codes, we receive upgrades, we receive enhancement of energy, right? So there's that level of the work, which I do is working with these natural, natural amplification points of energy. Um, usually they're where stone circles or sacred sites are, because our forefathers knew that there were this quality of like the life force in the earth is more powerful, or interdimensional gateways could be open there, or um, you know, if an alignment hits at this point of the sun and the moon and Venus, this will access this point. Like there are specific points in the earth where it's um it's more it's like more simple or easy to happen.
SPEAKER_00:I I always find something like this it gets a little bit boggling to a point. And then it's like, well, one second, think about it. Provided you come from a nice home. If you go home, you know, home is generally a place where you can take off your armor, you can be yourself. But there's a frequency there. Yeah, there's a frequency that allows you to be yourself. And then let's say you go to a very sexy sushi restaurant. I don't know if you've ever had it, but I gone to a very sexy sushi restaurant and suddenly I feel like an absolute romantic. I feel cool, right? I feel this like this sudden this frequency of cool comes into my body.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And then there's people. There's people in my life that like for whatever reason, sometimes they make me feel like a piece of shit. And I end up exaggerating and talking myself up different to how I actually am. Yeah. There's others that I can be so raw and vulnerable with. They emanate a frequency.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:A frequency of understanding or a frequency of inferiority. The home, a frequency of safety.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, and hell, sometimes you feel like you climb a mountain, you feel like you can take over the world. Um, and then there's other environments where for whatever reason you feel unsafe, just walk into a haunted house or a supposedly haunted house. I I think it's funny that when you talk about, let's say, energetic ley lines and different uh sacred sites and the transmissions, people are like, oof, it's the language. But we actually experience this all the time. There are places where we feel strong, places where we feel weak, people who we feel strong with, people who we feel weak with. And that is just something that can be studied, that's something that can be mastered.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And like that is where when we talked at the start of this conversation about why have people been pulled away from the mystics. Yeah. Because at a deep unenergetic level, if you understand magic and mysticism, you know how to command attention, you know how to influence on mass likewise. But if you don't, you're oh so susceptible to those who do.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Wow. Fucking thank you. I love, I love when someone takes a spiritual concept and makes it like a really logical, because I would never think like that. And that's so great that your audience can hear that and like, you know, like relate to what I've said in a different the other thing that was coming through to say is like cultural conditioning, the land receives that. Like so in Ireland, when there's a certain type of person feeling a certain type of frequency, practicing certain rituals, like the land remembers and holds that information. So you go there and you're picking up on that energy from the culture, the people there, right? Like it's encoded into the land, or like if there is, for instance, like rich knowledge, like I'm thinking of like the pyramids in Egypt, like there's decades, decades, a bit more than decades, thousands of years of rich spiritual practices, prayers, that sort of thing. Like you pick up on all the prayers in Bali because of the energy that's being emanated from the people. So it's like the people of the place also encode those places. And if you're attuned and if you're willing, you can go to these places and ask, like like a sacred site, and you can ask, hey, I would like to receive what's here, like for me in discernment.
SPEAKER_00:And isn't it so cool? Isn't it so cool that uh life is so much more deep and so much more magical than we are led to believe? I I have this idea. It was actually my first magical mushroom trip of around five grams, where I I felt it was this such a like I hope someday I get to create it in animations where it was like I took the mushrooms and slowly but surely I descended into this into the depths of myself where I found myself on a chair and I swiveled that chair around and I was met by a board table of all my guides who sat me down and were like, Jamie, we need to talk to you.
SPEAKER_03:I love this energy.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm on the other side of it, and like the other side of that conversation was now if you could just realize that for however interesting you think life is out there, it's so much more interesting in here. And for whatever powers you think you might be able to build and accumulate out there, wait till you see what's possible for you in here. And that's that's that was the catalyst for all the change in my life. I was like, oh wow, let's double down on an internal world and journey. Um, and that that's where I started leaning, let's say, into energetics, into magic, into mysticism.
SPEAKER_03:Believe it or not, like I was not always like this. I was very skeptical. This journey for me, six years ago, I read some fucking law of attraction book and I was like, what a load of BS. But on the off chance, this is real, God give me a mess, or like something, right? It was like I taunted the universe. If this is real, which led me down a rabbit hole. And now I live this life, which is like it's like a fantasy fiction film. Like literally everything that I see in fan is my life. The things that I'm doing, like if I started sharing some of them, I think most of your listeners would think that I'm insane. Um, because it does get pretty crazy and it gets more and more crazy the further you go, and it becomes more like this fantasy fiction film. But the way that I relate to it is like maybe I am, and I talk about this in my first book, maybe I am fucking just nuts. Maybe I'm just clinically insane. I'm schizophrenic, I'm crazy, I'm seeing things, I'm hearing things. But I would prefer to live in this magical mystery tour that is my fucking life, where everything is serving me and I'm working with aliens and I get to be orgasmic all day long, and you know, everything's this big cosmic journey and it's magical than living in inane day to day life where there is no afterlife, there is no soul. We die, we go on the ground, I don't get to choose what I create. Like, if I'm fucking crazy, great. I'd rather be crazy. I would rather be crazy because my life is beyond. Like, I share stories from my life with people, and they're like, holy like that's incredible and I'm like I get to live this life where I travel around the world working with sacred sites and writing books about it and meeting soulmates and like lying on the beach fucking just orgasming without anyone touching me like I get to live that life it's so good and then money comes in because I'm doing that it's like whoa right I get to live that life where I'm remembering my past lifetimes as a an oracle in Delphi and whatever else how cool is that like that's life is so much more fucking exciting living like this than just being like yeah so if I'm delusional I love my delusion that I've created and it's fucking great. I love it too.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah back yeah thank you that was a good so much that was that was that was your mic drop mate um I'll share all your links in a bio but I'm sure you're as open arms and well no actually unless you are an emperor or an empress.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah these arms are staying shut now kidding I help a lot of people with a lot of different levels of where they're at lovely lovely well thank you so much for this thank you this has been fun pleasure